College of Forest Resources Computer Committee (CFRCC)
Attendees: Dave Briggs (Co-Chair)
Marc Morrison (Co-Chair)
Karen Russell
Marianne Elliott
Brad Coston
Rob Harrison
Phil Hurvitz
Kendall Carson
Not Present: Bert Loosmore
These minutes were recorded by Kendall Carson and reviewed by Dave Briggs and Marc Morrisson.
Marc Morrisson began meeting by:
1) Acknowledging that minutes for the last meeting could not be posted until personnel issues had been actioned.
2) The committee still needs an undergraduate student representative. Marc will talk to Michelle Trudeau.
1) Shane Krause has been hired as the new Senior Computer Technician; he replaces David Haasz as Manager of the Bloedel 311 Lab. He will be located in the same office as Brad Coston.
Additionally, 5 students have been hired to monitor the lab. Lab hours have been changed from 8 – 5 pm (M-F).
2) The Lab will be closed for the summer. Marc Morrisson (per Dean Bare) will be using proceeds from the STF grant to upgrade the lab in addition to providing new computers. The lab will also be cleaned.
Marc informed the committee that all known students who would need the lab during the summer have been accommodated through other means.
Marc reported that the grant allows the CFRIT group to update the lab with new computers (w/ flat screen monitors). Setting up the machines would take 2-3 days in order get “images” of the old computers while the new computers are being set up.
The Grant allows for new software and printers.
A color printer will also be assigned to student services.
The committee discussed how to charge users of the lab particularly for printing Suggestions included charging students, adding to course charges, and purchasing “material tickets. The committee reached no consensus at this time.
The committee also recognized that new policy issues for the lab would need to be instituted. The following guidelines are now in place but could change with a “official” policy
A result of the STF grant is that the computers now in the Bloedel Lab will be freed up for other uses. Marc Morrisson designed a “lottery” for these computers. In all, there were 15 available computers. Notice of this lottery was sent to faculty via e-mail on March 14, 2002. At the time of the meeting, there were 15 requests made by 12 faculty members. (3 of the faculty asked for two computers.)
The committee assigned computers according to the following criteria.
Because Inventory is most often associated with inventory by the IT Group, Dean Bare has assigned Marc Morrison to oversee ALL equipment inventory for CFR. Marc reported that the University inventory will begin May 6, and has to be fully completed by August 30, 2002.
It was noted that although inventory is not the domain of the committee, the committee is best prepared to come up with a policy.
Marc noted the following problems:
New rules at the University Computing and Communications department have now affected security and policy issues for CFR.
A preliminary “CFR Computer Policy” was put out for review by the committee. The committee reached no consensus on agreement with the guidelines and will review it before the next meeting.
The committee decided the next meeting would be May 15, 2002 at 3:00 pm in Anderson 107a.
College of Forest Resources Computer Committee (CFRCC)
Minutes for 4th meeting, December 20, 2001
Attendees: Dave Briggs (Co-Chair)
Marc Morrison (Co-Chair)
Karen Russell
Marianne Elliott
Brad Coston
Bert Loosmore
Phil Hurvitz
Kendall Carson
Not Present: Rob Harrison
These minutes were recorded by Kendall Carson and reviewed by Dave Briggs
Marc Morrisson began meeting by:
1) Acknowledging the business since last meeting (March 2001)
2) Acknowledging new members including:
Dave Briggs replaces Bruce Bare as Co-Chair
Bert Loosmore replaces Kevin Gehringer as Grad Student Representative
Karen Russell replaces Gordon Hammond
3) The committee still needs an undergraduate student representative. Marc will talk to Michelle Trudeau
The committee discussed issues related to the need for a 3rd full time appointed technician, including:
The committee reviewed extensively what is needed as for a 3rd tech and came to one decision and one recommendation.
Decision: Marc, with help from others present a proposal that includes:
· Tasks that can’t done w/o Shane
· Improving desktop and laptop support
· Meeting undergraduate and graduate needs for PC, software, and printing access
· Security issues
Recommendation: Bloedel Lab will be closed and funds redirected toward hiring of a 3rd full-time tech.
As part of Agenda, it was brought to the committee a need to come to a decision to how to use the Dean’s equipment budget.
Two alternatives were brought to the table:
· Upgrade the bandwidth: the benefit would allow for large files (1 GB or more ) to be transferred easily, especially between research groups and centers.
· Upgrade the CFR “Backbone”, i.e. the file servers and back-up storage: the benefit would allow for timelier and far-more reliable backup to all CFR.
At this point the committee reviewed both of these needs extensively, outside the decision to use the deans funds.
The committee reviewed the bandwidth needs and recognizes that the college will soon require the capability to move large files between groups, but this requires more money than is provided in the dean’s budget to meet the needs of the college. Presently, upgrading would only benefit specific groups.
The committee reviewed the “CFR Backbone” needs and found that there will be some immediate requirement since CFR Continuing Education is purchasing an Exchange Server that includes Conferencing hardware and software. Also, there is a very real need to upgrade back-up systems and mass storage media to the whole college.
DECISION: The committee has decided that it will make a hardcopy proposal of both alternatives for review in the next meeting. This proposal will be detailed and include purchasing and equipment requirements.
The committee discussed policy issues as a corollary to server and backup issues discussed previously. Phil Hurvitz noted that presently there is no “official” usage or web policy. Marc Morrisson further added that there also needs to be a policy for purchasing computer equipment.
Also, it was further noted present rules can’t be policed: no one is assigned as an authority to back up a policy, hence, present policy is only customary, not an true enforceable rule.
DECISION: The committee has decided that (at least) Marc, David, and Karen will review present policy in a separate meeting to be later presented to the Computer committee and the Dean.
Minutes from March 20, 2001
1:00-2:00 pm in Anderson Hall, Room 114.
Attendees: Bruce Bare (Co-Chair), Kevin Gehringer, Robert Harrison, Phil Hurvitz, Marc Morrison (Co-Chair), Brad Coston and Gordon Hammond.
The topic of discussion revolved around a request to purchase an additional server to be devoted to ESC 110. Professor Harrison presented the case for the new server and the Committee concurred. Funds for the purchase of the new machine will be borne entirely by student fees collected for ESC 110. Mr. Coston will facilitate network needs related to the new machine. After Spring term, Professor Harrison agreed to investigate ways to utilize the CFR WWW server to meet his needs. Mr. Coston will help him move his material to this server.
Minutes for February 2, 2001
Attendees: B. Bruce Bare (Co-Chair), Marc Morrison (Co-Chair), Marianne Elliott, Brad Coston, Kevin Gehringer, Rob Harrison, Phil Hurvitz, Justin Knobel, Kendall Carson, Chadwick Oliver
These minutes were recorded by Kendall Carson and reviewed by B. Bruce Bare
Bruce Bare began meeting by going over:
Dean's Charge
Bruce Bare noted that the Dean's charge could be summarized into three areas:
Responses to Survey
Bruce Bare gave general questions (listed below) for discussion during this meeting:
These questions came from a review of responses to the CFR Computer Support Survey. This survey was e-mailed to all CFR staff and faculty in the December. There were ten responses by staff/faculty, other than members of the CFR Computer Committee.
From the discussion, the CFRCC concluded:
Marc Morrison then outlined some issues regarding responding to service calls including:
Marc also outlined how Support Staff responds to service calls and emergencies.
Marc and Brad also noted that there is no published standard for handling priorities. They both noted that while faculty "expect" teaching issues to be responded to first (in general they are), that in an emergency, everybody is considered equal.
They also brought up that the present (three) members of the staff decide as a group how to respond.
Security Issues
The discussion of service call responses then became a discussion of security issues within the College.
Marc stated that Support Personnel (Marc Morrisson, Brad Coston, Mike Long) should be notified all maintenance issues, even those with University C&C. He noted that some faculty and staff want nothing to do with the support personnel, but that puts the college at risk.
Brad noted that with security they deal with 2 "roads".
This is important, because Support Personnel have to deal with different policies concerning the operation system, software patches, maintenance, and purchasing.
Bruce Bare noted that Laptops are also a security issue. Brads responded that the Laptop security is an issue depending on the laptop's access to the network domain. Marc noted the best response is that laptop access should be through a CFR user account. Kevin noted that this will help block the "big holes" so Support Personnel can deal with the "small" holes.
Brad and Marc also noted some of the serious security breaches at the University and the CFR (e.g. Linux Box "denial of service", hacking incidents at the hospital). Marc then noted that to respond to these issues, Support Personnel have to find the machine and "shut it down" or "unplug the college from the system", and that this may mean that faculty and staff may not be able to operate independently of the college.
Brad noted that some solutions might be network server upgrades and using TCP/IP Protocols.
Brad and Marc also noted that Support Personnel could not provide equal support for Mac's. Right now, most Mac users/centers are getting by. If problems become more common, should they hire a person to deal with Mac (Apple) issues?
Brand and Marc also noted that there are bandwidth and line cable issues. The University only runs fiber optic up the building(s). It may cost from $4000 to $7000 per floor to upgrade to the needed level.
The discussion of security issues closed with Bruce Bare forming a subcommittee that will answer:
These members are:
Staffing Issues
Staffing issues centered on teaching support. The CFRCC did not actually discuss if there was a shortage of personnel. Instead the discussion centered on support of computer labs at CFR. Marc noted that computer labs seemed to be govern well, but the committee discussed the following were issues.
CFR Website
CFRCC noted that there was many weakness and flaws to the CFR Website issues.
Bruce Bare delegated a subcommittee for dealing with CFR website issues. These members include: Brad Coston, Marianne Elliot, Justin Knobel, Chadwick Oliver, and Kendall Carson.
Web Survey Results:
Marianne Elliott briefly discussed the result of the website and web usage survey.
These results can be found at http://www.cfr.washington.edu/cfrnet/surveyresults.
Attendance: Bare, Hurvitz, Morrison
Ex officio: Coston
The CFR Computer Committee met from 2:30-4:00 pm on 1/3/01 in the Health Sciences Rotunda. The principal topic of discussion was what type of web authoring software to install in the BLD 311 student laboratory. Our deliberations lead us to the following conclusions:
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